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Noah’s Ark is obviously bullshit.
How do you explain the fact that none of the predator animals ate the smaller animals. How do you explain there not being a disease spread through all of those animals packed in on one ship. What did he do about the animals needing to use the bathroom, how did he have enough food for all of them if they weren’t eating each other?
I agree. My point exactly.
Although, of course you know those whom are religious and study these things will obviously claim that it was the work of God that kept them alive and well.
Obviously there is no scientific explanation to prove any of these theories of the “Noah’s Ark”.
I’m not trying to bash on anybody’s beliefs but when it comes to these kinds of things you just have to be realistic.
Why would any of your above questions be difficult for God? After all he created the heavens and the earth along with all the living creatures and man. Everything that God does is with order. He told Noah specifically what the measurements for the ark were and Noah was to follow them. I’m quite confident that God had a plan worked out for Noah to dispose of the the animals waste…who knows when God told Noah the specifics on how to build the ark that could have included some type of opening that was beneath the ark for them to dispose of the animals waste. As far as disease and not eating eachother….like I said. God doesn’t put anything into action that isn’t without order.
Wasn’t Noah like, a thousand years old when he built the ark?
lol yeah and no 1 lives 2 c 1000 years old. hasnt people got btter things 2 do than sit with there head in books trying 2 suss out who nd were noah came from, i mean 4 god sakes geta life geeks.. mystery thats all it will ever b …
Ummm, it clearly states in the bible… AFTER the flood, that God limits human life to that of around 150 Years. So that easily explains the age thing.
In the Qur’an, Noah’s ark was big enough to carry 2 whales and 2 Rocs
That’s big.
how is that even boat shaped
I believe in the story as far fetched as it may be, but it definitely requires that people allow for divine intervention to keep everything in order. I mean the chances of EVERY animal surviving at sea for years ( 40 days and nights was how long it rained and flooded for, who knows how long it took the water to actually lower enough for land to be shown again, like i said it could have been years) including the pairs of insects etc is highly suspect. Plus how could all the waste be removed? If done by hand the people doing it would have had to be moving at inhuman speeds for the entire period of stay to control all the waste, factoring in that noah could have had a large family. THen there is the problem of getting enough food to every animal, and the RIGHT food for each animal too, and how to store the food for such a long period of time, i mean some animals are very picky and will only eat fresh, maybe only fruit etc, so then how could noah have gathered enough vegetation to sustain these picky eaters and bring it back to the ship in time for it to stay fresh, and then have it somehow perfectly stored inside….
Only divine intervention could have done these things. Maybe god put the animals into a hibernation, who knows. Either way too much evidence exists for me to doubt that god is real. E=MC^2, infinite energy can give way to infinate amounts of mass and creation.
noah ark for today is the church of god almighty,whoseever believe in our lord jesus christ will be saved not only to believe
but to accept him as lord and savior.no more flood to come but fire.pls read the bible.
god is an alien. you will soon see…immaculate conception, lights hovering above the where mary was giving birth? how do you explain what the Hindu Gods look like? definitely look like aliens to me…flying from the heavens in chariots n all. I think we’ve been duped into believing very strange things that may seem larger than life, well, because those that actually synthesized and hybridised us are much much smarter and advanced than we are. we are but children in the intergalactic kindergarten, and its high time we accept it. if you actually watch how the human organism acts, you will notice that we behave like defunct pre-pubescents! like junkies enslaved on heroin and ciggarettes(oil), bad temper tantrums(wars) and an attitude of being totally inconsiderate to your neighbours. The big picture looks very different if you’re willing to open your eyes and see it. question EVERYTHING, even the bible. It doesnt mean i dont believe in ‘God’, i just know that he/she/it is an alien from a very advanced civilisation far away from us. If you were created in a lab in a test tube, dont you think your ‘parents’ would wait to tell you when they knew you were ‘ready’ to accept that? imagine telling a kid he was made in a test tube, he would be traumatised for the rest of his life…ok thats all, i hope at least someone feels enlightened by this post…oh and try eating some magic mushrooms, it helps to see through all the grabage, almost like looking through a telescope into life haaha.
in my oppinion,it is not impossible. you just believe in god.when you believe automatically you’re in the right way. please dont blame god.if god didn’t create adam..i think right now you must be an ani..l. so with the Noah ark..it is the miracle of god..dont just know it as a legend..think use your brain…back to basic.tq
Well if you beileve that there is one god , and he is providing food to all the mankind , so god is able to stop the hunger also.
But my friend the problem is that , your thinking is right bcoz u r non-muslim , and you can araise such kind fo questions. But infact as a muslim we trust naoh’s and his true story , for more details you can just read quran . from there you will find the true story. Also keep in mind that quran is not written by you or me , or some human being.
Have a piece and mercy on them who beleive
yes i agree the quran wasn’t written by a human being…good point u are on the enlightened path.
how would you get every specie of animal on earth in one boat , 1. it would sink 2. you cant becuase not every specie lived where noah lived and 3. mostprbably some of those animals would have tried to kill him ANd 4 . how could he get an elephant, rhino , giraffe , hippopotamus e.c.t on a boat which i not made of metal and float? xP
Well this is some thing we cant imagine, Can you imagine that how sperm ejaculated into a woman’s vagina. and from that sperm God is creating Bones, Blood , and viens etc , then eyes, and then a beautiful skin etc.
Cant u think how does it happen and who is doing all this process. Its Nature , and Almighty is contrlling all these things.
Naoh was prophet , and this was the command of God to make a boat and put every pair human bieng , animals, etc in that boat. So fr God its possible to do what ever God wants. If you dont believe in One god, then that si different case. and there is no medicine and no answer for your question.
God bless those who bileve
Noah’s Ark is obviously bullshit.
How do you explain the fact that none of the predator animals ate the smaller animals. How do you explain there not being a disease spread through all of those animals packed in on one ship. What did he do about the animals needing to use the bathroom, how did he have enough food for all of them if they weren’t eating each other?
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With a comment like that I can tell you you have no spirtuality or connection to earth, animals or higher powers. The world is not as it appears. i feel sorry for people that have closed minds.
PS. I am not religous. Far from it.
Response to Joey about Noahs Ark being BS.
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With a comment like that I can tell you you have no spirtuality or connection to earth, animals or higher powers. The world is not as it appears. i feel sorry for people that have closed minds.
PS. I am not religous. Far from it.
its all meant to be very symbolic and not really a true depiction of reality. It has underlying meanings and shouldnt be taken literally. The people(?)or entities that wrote the bible had lots of time to figure out metaphors and such so to teach the learner but also to give them something to think about, in this way, while it is not being taken literally, the learner can interpret his own truth from it and still not distort the original meaning.
Comments submitted so far are very interesting. I like chris’s comments on June 10th in particular. Praises also go to Petresktonegerden Von Puderstrizendorfdenschlaggenbildenhaagenugenkaizerlof for the name alone.
Wow people…of course there isn’t any scientific explaination for many things that happened in the Bible. It’s not called ‘A Scientific Journey Through the Life Of Early Man’. It’s a book based on Faith. Faith requires no rational explainations…hence, why it is called Faith. Drop it and leave those who believe in peace.
Katie, I believe you are correct, science can’t explain many of the events in the Bible. But this post is about people who look for scientific proof to support their faith, not about faith itself. I realize that many comments are a little off-topic, but click on the link to read about the Christian archeology group. It’s in the first image of the rocky outcrop in Iran. Now there are some people mixing science and faith.
Pretty trippy comment thread, Rick! You really bring ‘em out of the woodwork.
Most people’s knowledge of the ark comes from poorly researched cartoons and children’s book illustrations. Those who have studied the ark in the bible have observed that not only is it a viable vessel for the task it performed; it is actually the optimum dimensions, made from the most ideal materials available at the time. In other word – it could work.
Noah’s ark, far from fable, is an accurately recorded historical event.
For more info check out creation.com and their article noahs-ark-questions-and-answers
Fantastic answers for open minded skeptics.
Mr Adam, I visited the site. The Noah section relies heavily on John Woodmorappe’s book Noah’s Ark: a Feasibility Study, which has been rightfully criticized for its purposeful misuse of statistics. Throwing all science to the wind, let us keep his assumption that the ark carried 16,000 animals, from the smallest hummingbird to the largest dinosaur. He states that the median-sized animal was the size of a rat, and proceeds to calculate space and labor needs for 16,000 rat-sized animals. The median of 2, 3, and 100 is 3. What he ignores is the mean-sized animal in this menagerie, and therefore I feel justified in ignoring him, as should you.
I found this info regarding Woodmorappe’s study with about 10 seconds thought and a search engine. I admit I haven’t read his book, but I doubt many people have.
In my opinion Noah is a scientist. All the words about miracle is only about the story legacy from generation to generation. In his era, Noah save so many people. So, the era is thank him by call him a prophet, and so were all the appreciate to him finally bring a religious story for a thank to the Almighty God because God save people through the intelligent of Noah by his ark. So, my conclusion is, Human Intelligent is a miracle from God. (But of course some one who live with arrogant will refuse this idea)
Science and Religion is walk in the same track, just different language. Science is using a scientific language and Religion using a poetry/metaphor language. Thinking about God is about the way thinking about wisdom.
What we called science is the top of human thinking in the time…eg;no body will believe if we can fly hundreds year a go, an so on…
while religious is one thing far above it. It s contain matters “not yet” understanable for human being at this time. I believe sometime…when our abbility is develope enough…we will see this relationship between “human science” and “God science” or what we called religion.
Truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies (Quote from -Ralph Waldo Emerson) and the Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge (Quote from Stephen Hawking).
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic (Quote from Dresden James) and lies told often enough become the truth (Quote from Lenin).
Everyone has lied and most still lie to this day. Even Christians who are true with their path in life will admit that they have lied. No one on this earth is innocent of lying. We also know that even scientist have lied about their claims as well as government agencies that have supported them financially and with all of the deception in this world who are we suppose to trust to tell us the truth about the history of this world? Could you really believe science, science that is defined by people who are guilty of lying?
Why isn’t there more information on this? Why hasn’t it been dug up and examined for proof? Why is it that the government there have MT. Ararat sized off so we can’t investigate it even further? Maybe it is because they already know the answer. A quote from a Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko, “When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie.”
If your going to use the word skeptic to define anyone then you have to show proof of your negative or positive claims.
Lets go to the basics of a skeptic and define what a skeptic is. A skeptic is a person who is neutral. In this case a skeptic doesn’t believe that god is real nor does he believe that god isn’t real. A skeptic will remain neutral until the skeptic has solid proof to lead the skeptic ether way.
The definition of a cynic is a person who does nothing else but find faults. I’ve seen cynics go as far as aggressively attacking you to push the faults they have found on you. This is also a good example of immaturity. Let me take the heat off of the non-believers. A cynic can be on ether side of the coin. A believer who spouts out faults to the none believer and the non believer who spouts out faults to the believer. In ether case they both are immature, negative and sometimes aggressive about proving the point of their faults. Also if a person who claims to be a christian demonstrates this kind of behavior (hate and aggressive anger) is a liar. The bible defines what a sin is and a sin is anything that hurts another person.
The bible teaches you how to love other people and this love you feel for other people compels you to help other people who you see can use some help and when you can’t help them then the christian gives it to god by praying for them and asking god to help them. They make this decision without announcing it. By announcing it they could be citing that you are a sinner and it isn’t their place to judge others, ’cause from ones mind this judgment is harming another person. This judgment is the judge placing them selves above those they are judging.
This is truly hard to explain without going on about it forever. Speaking metaphorically I’m pushing a needle into a piece of iron. I’m not even making a dent in that iron plate. All I’m doing is scratching the surface.
OK, Paul, I want everyone to be able to speak freely at my blog, so have at it.
Your first comment, which I thinks states that Noah’s Ark is real and the Turkish government purposefully hinders further study, is a common complaint. I tend to doubt it, since Mt Ararat is a top tourist site, and open to all since 2001. Visit Anatolian Adventures, hire a guide, and go there on your next vacation.
Your second comment is just preachy. At least Mr Adam on June 18th supported his argument with footnotes. You, not so much.
Also, don’t redefine the word skeptic. Nobody can prove a negative, as you well know. If you’re asking people to back their claims with something substantial, then I agree.
Quote Rick: “Your first comment, which I thinks states that Noah’s Ark is real and the Turkish government purposefully hinders further study, is a common complaint. I tend to doubt it, since Mt Ararat is a top tourist site, and open to all since at least 2001.”
This is a poor argument simply ’cause on all tourist places you have designated locations and paths they follow for one reason and one reason only, safety. One thing you didn’t mention in your statement is these tourist trips are permitted by the military. Why would the military govern a tourist attraction? Proof?
This mystery would be solved if the defense department and NASA would released the satellite imagery and surveillance photographs that have been taken over the last 50 years.
There is allot of people in this world who try to use the theory of evolution to prove that god isn’t real. This is a negative because the theory of evolution is just that, a theory, a theory that has circumstantial evidence and lies to support it.
http://www.chabad.org/parshah/default_cdo/aid/9168/jewish/Noach.htm
Furthermore,
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1099
So Paul, welcome back. I looked at your link, which gives information supporting your position. Your link states that the Ararat Anomaly has never been investigated. I can buy that. You point out that visiting the mountain is not the same as investigating the anomaly. So I am going to leave it there, because I don’t really have an explanation for Turkey not letting the curious just walk up and check it out. All they say is that it’s a military thing. But suspicions and hunches that the anomaly is the ark is not the same as proof, so I stick with my skepticism for now.
I have more for you but there is a problem with it. There isn’t any difference about it then what people have provided about evolution. This problem is it is all circumstantial evidence. If this evidence is something you want to see I can provide it but considering that your looking for 100% proof of it’s existence on MT. Ararat. I doubt that anything I show you will prove to you that it is there.
My position is this, why has the Turkish military put this area under siege and why hasn’t the Defense Department and NASA released more footage of the “anomaly” that they have been taking satellite images of and surveillance photographs of for the last 50 years?
I have a speculation as to why this is. It is something I posted earlier in another comment. It is a quote from a Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko, “When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie.”
Don’t you think they would be more revealing about what is in the area in question to um, put a stop to all the speculation that it is Noah’s Ark? What is obvious is they are trying to hide something. As long as they continue to hide whatever is there then we’ll never know what the “anomaly” is.
I have no doubt in my mind that it is Noah’s Ark.
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I edited your comment for content. I allow a lot of stuff, but draw the line with trying to convert people. There’s been a lot of bible crosstalk, which I figure is expected with this post. But you proselytize anymore and I’ll put you on my spam list. I won’t have it.
This isn’t any different then the defense department, NASA, and the Turkish military. The whole point of proving the existence of Noah’s Ark is to prove the existence of our dad, GOD.
There are stories, documentaries and books that have been written of explorers who have seen and touched the ark and some of these records and books go back to 1200 AD.
Rather interesting that a piece of hand hued wood that Fernand Navarra chopped out of the ice in 1950 has been tested and of course it isn’t considered proof because some scientist have claimed fraud but yet when Fernand took pieces of it to other places to be tested. It was dated to be 5000 years old and it was labeled as a type of wood that doesn’t even grow in turkey. Other places he took pieces of the wood to blew it off and wouldn’t test it at all.
I bet you blow this off to. You wouldn’t be the first to blow off eye witness accounts of the ark that date all the way back to 1200AD. Eye witness Accounts that have consistency in the description of the ark.
Yes, first the defense dept., NASA and the Turkish military, now my blog. I’m just another big thumb, holding back knowledge. Generally speaking I do try to take things with a grain of salt. You take this subject much more seriously than I do, so like I said on 6/24, you backed your argument nicely with some references to current research. Well done. Best wishes proving the existence of GOD.
so the story was a little far fetched… but still…its called a miracle people…thats what god does. he works miralces. he’s god. he can do that. and the age thing? after noah’s ark, god limited human age to something like 150 or something…so really. Noah’s ark was one big miracle. do you actually think that a flood was so huge that it could wipe out the entire earth? yeah its called a miracle. read the bible.
So Mauna, sorry for not responding to your comment right away. The story of Noah’s Ark is interesting and entertaining. However this post was meant to be about the search for the ark. The real deal, an actual wooden boat on Mt Ararat. What do you think? It’s OK if you don’t have an opinion.
Noah’s ark is real. We just don’t know EXACTLY where is it now. Some ask for hard evidence (seen, touched, tested, tasted, etc) in order to believe. Some just have faith to believe. There is only one issue here, for all parties, whether they’re from religious groups, skeptics, scientist, etc., which is to believe or not to believe. My friends, if there is a hard evidence found proving the ark’s existence but you CHOOSE to disbelieve, you will always disrepute its existence. I believe in Noah’s ark and the events that caused it to be built and i believe in God too because i choose to believe. have a nice day.
is this bullshit, is the bible fake, is God? Check out: http://www.answering-islam.org/Hoaxes/joshua2.html
it proves it’s all good, and not bullshit, because the scientists are now exploring things the bible have told us all the time. Have you ever heard about the bibel codes, check them out
I didnt even really hear the whole story on this did they like unearth it????? Why wouldnt they?
I never think that the Ancient is always about primitive. I believe there is an Era where human intelligent is more highly Modern than today. Even it really possible the Super Modern Era is happen far before the (modern) human evolution..
Do you realize the Earth had been destroy and rebuild and destroy and rebuild repeatedly again and again? There are so many ancient Megastructure that make us say “How Come???”. And my conclusion is : all the Doomsday is always happen when human arrive to the Modern Age of the each era..
So, the Modern Era that happen today is not the first time on Earth. Creation and Annihilation is some kind of routines journey of the Universe..
I always have thought that the words of “from dust to dust” that written in the Bible is not a bullshit. The Doomsday is about the heat. The Super Heat that make the words of “from dust to dust” is become reality. The Super Heat that make all the metal melt, only a few stone who left for the next mystery (example : pyramid, stonehenge, etc..)
The fact is not only pollution that make the Earth warm (Global Warming), but the Earth is also warm with naturally, I may prove this by the statement of Ice Age. What happen with Ice Age? The fact is the Ice Age is disappear even far before the era of today industrial. But sure we can’t denied that the pollution is making the Doomsday come millions times faster than it should be..
So what happen with Ice Age? I used to thought that the Earth is standing on two rotation (to the Sun). The first rotation is the rotation that make The Night and Day, and the second rotation who walking very slow, even too slow that make no one notice about it, is the elliptical rotation that make the Ice Age and the Doomsday. Ice Age is happen when the position of the Earth is in the Far point of the Sun, and the Doomsday is happen when the Earth is in the Nearest point of the Sun. So, Creation and Annihilation does repeat. But I guess scientist is came out with brand new idea about the X Planet (The Nibiru Planet). Well, that could also become the other possibility..
Hey guys if some of you still doubt about the existence of GOD, my blog might could give you the answer of “the fact thing about GOD”..
Visit http://www.san9saka.blogspot.com/, well it’s not an English blog, but you can click on the translation button at the under of the music Playlist..
Enjoy. GOD bless..
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um, God is real.He isn’t an alien and I am not a product of a test tube. I am only 10 and I understand the Word of God. If He can create the Heavens and stars, then He can surely keep a boat full of animals fed, safe, and afloat. I will pray for you to learn and accept the truth.
close minded people assume the animals were fully grown.
Really people all you have to do is open the Bible. Start in Genesis Chapter one verse one. In the begining God said let their be light. All God did was speak and it was done. He then made the heavens and the earth, the stars, the seas, the sea creatures, the land animals, and then Man. Then he rested on the 7th day. When Man brought corruption and sin into the world we were all condemed. Sin got so bad that is when God went to Noah and told him to build the Ark. By the measurments you could see that the ark was the size of about 1 1/2 football field, it was 4 stories high. Now Noah did have to collect all the animals. God sent the animals to Noah, and you have to understand the species thing. not all kinds of dogs were there at the Ark, but most domesticated dogs are a breed of wolf, and the cats are a breed of lion or tiger. so one reprisentation for the species. if you look at it that way it is not so out there. Now for the monkey wrench. Were their Dinosaurs thier? Absolutley!!! God made all creatures by the end of the 6th day. Some will say how could a dino fit on the Ark. Well adolesent dinos could. the average dino is or was the size of a pony. we just focus on the really big ones. But what this all boils down to is that God also told Noah to get people on the Ark and they didnt want anything to do with Noah or God. Just like today. In a world filled with sin, hate, war, corruption, and DEATH. We are being told to get on the boat again. Christ is our boat. He is our Salvation, our Life Line. Dont pass it up. Get on abourd, choose Jesus Christ and everlasting life. God Promised to never send a Flood again but sin in this world is the water that is going to drown us. But we have the choice to get on the boat.
people just read the bible and stop saying things about noah ark!God did everything in the ark because he is powerful and almighty!so stop saying things about God!
Guys Noah obviously took babies with him on the ark ! Eat less, sleep alot more, the predators won’t eat the herbivors, MUCH less poop etc etc. Think about it, Noah was pretty old when he built the ark, he was probably smart enough to realise you should take babies with. Isn’t it obvious?? Oh and also, reduces the size of the boat needed doesn’t it ?
But yeah it’s obviously rubbish, has to be…
ITS HEART BREAKING TO KNOW THAT SO MANY PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE IN GOD. HE GIVES YOU LIFE AND THIS IS HOW WE ALL REPAY HIM?? PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE ALL ARE GOING TO DIE. AND WHEN WE DIE YOU THINK WERE GOING TO JUST LAY THERE SIX FEET UNDER GROWN?? IN THE BIBLE IT STATES THAT JESUS IS COMING AND TO TAKE HIS PEOPLE HOME!!!!!! DO PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE STANDS FOR?? IT STANDS FOR (B)ASIC (I)INSTRUCTIONS (B)EFORE (L)EAVING (E)ARTH.. SO ALL THE NONESENCE THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT DINOSAURS, WHY DOESNT IT SAY ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE??? I MEAN COME ON PEOLE DO YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT DINOSAURS BEFORE YOU DIE? WHEN PEOPLE DIE AND FIND OUT WHERE THEY ENDED, THERE ALL GOING TO BE VERY REGRETFULL ON HOW THEY LIVED THERE LIVES… IF THEY DONT MAKE IT..
FOR THOSE WHO DO THE LORDS WORK, DONT STOP
MAY HE BLESS YOU
FOR THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE IN HIM
MAKE A CHANGE
BECAUSE OUR TIME IS RUNNING OUT
I cant understand how someone doesnt believe in GOD!Look at the world,life,birth of a child,beautiful animals.All the pain that surounds us us from sin.Live your life w/lots of love and faith,always give never take,always help ones in need,and realize how blessed you are because one day itl be too late.
Bullshit.
I never believed in Noah’s Ark, not that I am saying people aren’t entitled to their own opinion because they absolutely are, but it’s bullshit.
Sure, ships buried and found under the earth for an amount of time is obviously possible, but that doesn’t mean that any of these ships are Noah’s ark.
Even if Noah’s ark existed, it would have decayed by now, right? Just saying..
I see all of your points. I understand where you are coming from. Here is something to think about… I cannot see your brain, smell your brain, hear your brain, or even touch your brain (unless you have brain surgery in which you allow me too), but i know that its there and I can see it’s effects (you are alive). God works the same way, he’s there but you can’t see him, smell him, hear him, or touch him but you know he’s there because you can feel it in your heart. When you hear the first cry of a newborn and see it open it’s eyes for the first time or see a cascading white waterfall or see a cancer patient who has finally overcome cancer or make it to the top of a mountain and look out over a valley and realize that you are very small, it’s hard not to believe there is someone up there whose watching out for us, someone who can see more of the big picture than we can. Considering the alien theory,if you can believe in aliens… you can believe in God.
Someone who:
aliens = evolution for me,
and evolution=science,
& I believe in science…
just to be honest.. but I respect your faith.
the bigger the lie the more people will believe it. Woo Hoo…”it was written in the Bible so it must be true”….give me an effin’ break. After all these years most people are still don’t have the huevos to stand up and say that stories like these are ridiculous. Religion, whether Greek, Norse, Christian, Muslim, et al was created to explain things and to control the masses. Nothing more. When I do good I feel good, when I do bad I feel bad…..that’s my religion.
Thank you, Marc
-earthykinded
i believe in noah ark because im the one on that ship
I do not understand why some people can’t believe this. Would you believe if someone told you that the inspired words of God (The Bible) told you that the Earth we live on is actually round? Way before it was ever discovered.Would you believe that the Bible actually explains the hydraulic cycle way before it was ever discovered? Would you believe that the Bible actually tells you that the Earth is hung in the heavens way before it was actually discovered? Would you believe that the Bible actually tells you that every single star in the heavens is different from one another and are too numerous to count way before it was ever discovered? What about prophecy in the Bible? I will not even go into that, because obviously you would not understand because you don’t read the Bible. Have you ever thought to wonder why of all the books ever written even by our worlds most famous authors, that the Bible is the all time best seller? How would the authors of the Bible know that there will be a one world government, which we are on the brink of today? What about them already placing “chips” into humans with all of that persons information encoded in that chip? Read Revelation or http://www.endtimesministry.com What about the number of original manuscripts that we have today? Check the numbers on that and see what other originals that we have today. The next closest to the Bible is Homer’s “Iliad” and it is not even close. What about some of the founding fathers of science and who set the stage for what we know today? What was their view on God? If the Bible wasnt true, how would it have survived through all of these years if it were totally false? Someone would have definitely crushed its legitamacy. If the resurrection was false, wouldn’t the Bible been shot down? Check the dates of Christ’s crucifixtion and the dates of the New Testament. There were actually people who were alive at both that could have surely denounced the legitamacy of it, but yet it is still widely circulated today? What about the resurrection account? They say that it was stolen? Do some research on the training and discipline of the Roman soldier in that era and draw your conclusions. They said that the sodiers hid it? What sense would that have made? The Romans wanted Him dead for the claims that He made. Why would they have wanted to remove His body when that would have justified the resurrection that He foretold? When people saw the body gone they were on fire for Him. If the Romans saw this reaction don’t you think they would have produced His body to shut this up? There is only one reason that the Bible is so accurate and is widely in circulation today and that is because it is the inspired word of God and sadly one day you will see this, but then it will be to late! There are hundreds more explanations and prophecies in the Bible and I encourage you to read it with your so called open minds. It is like Lee Strobel (former atheist) said, “It takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian” simply put. Have you examined the numerical possibilities for the complex human cell and all of its internal structures as well as a single strand of human DNA to just magically come into existence? Don’t even talk about the human eye, which is way more complicated than todays digital camera. I guess the camera just “magically” happened out of nowhere too.
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The account of Noah’s ark is true. The flood was globally universal. The boat was real, the animals were real, and the account in Genesis is the only account of truth. The idea that we do not have absolute proof, or a scientific explanation to support the fact of the flood is irrelevant. It is simply a matter of Faith in God and in His Word.
It is unexplainable. It’s all God creature. Nobodies can refuses God Destiny. For all we are as human, We’ll just have to wait until the judgement day is come. at the end of the world. we’re gonna be shown that is the thruth of what we’ve been doubts about God. InsyaAllah someday. Just believe God.
It didnt happen Noahs Ark is a religous myth with no basis in reality
The amount of moisture in the air would have collapsed Noahs (and his fams) lungs-
There is absolutely no evidence of a world wide flood- it’s that simple.
Google’The Epic of Gilgamesh’ and the ‘Sumerians’- as alot of Christianity the story of Noah was stolen from earlier accounts.
Hahahahahaha!! Are you joking? This “junk” doesn’t even remotely compare to the Bible. I bet you are a huge Lord of the Rings fan to. For your eternal sake google Randall Niles or Lee Strobel. Just keep in mind, one day your eyes WILL close in death and it will all hit you like a ton of bricks. Your death will be in total fear and chaos. Really weigh the evidence in all arenas for your sake. One man said “what if when you die all of your beliefs in Christianity ain’t true?” The man replied “I would have led a very peaceful, loving, and moral life while I was here on Earth”, now let me ask you a question “What if when you die YOU find out that what pursued you so hard and what you totally denounced IS true?” The atheist man had no reply. Think about it my brothers and sisters…really think about it. Peace and love!!
Alright, everybody settle down. Two things. First, a person can entertain an idea without embracing it. Second, the Epic of Gilgamesh and the account of Noah in the Book of Genesis compare quite nicely. Please read a comparison of the two at Religious Tolerance. Knowing that the Gilgamesh story is older, or that the flood story was popular before Genesis was written, won’t hurt anyone.
I just came accoss your discussion. Very enlightening to see so many different views and opinions. It’s amazing how we all have faith in something and are so bound by it. Whether it be God or Monkeys. I am a christian or christ follower. Let me encourage those of you who do not believe in the stories of the bible to look into them more further. Science is not a good argument for disputing God. Science is step by step process to test a theory. Science has proven existance and proven Biblical events such as the flood, the ark, and the parting of the red sea. I would encourage all of us believers and non to have an open mind. I would encourage the believers to have more of an open mind because God encourages us to love everyone even when our faith is challenged. Thank you for having this blog and giving me a great start of beautiful Friday.
god real or not real that is the question? what is the meaning of life? wyh are we here? these three question have been asked since the dawn of man. we turn to the bible for the anwers but we did not find them. we look to the heavens and earth. through space. But we never find the anwer. What i am saying is we humans have been looking since we could think. maybe we are looking in the wroung place. we look to god or gods but never see anything. we look at earth we find something but close mineded people say that we should not say it to the world. Because they want to belive that god is almigted. god needs to be poven once and for all. to many wars about my god is real and your god is not. we act like child like the moto say boy don’t grow up their toy just get bigger. all i am saying is find out if your god is fucking before you started to shove it down people’s neck.
Wish you guys are in the middle east right now!Show them something.that you are more reliable than God. Tell them whom to trust.God or humans? Condeming the Unseen One is easy.tell the Hezbollah, Taliban face to face. You might think otherwise about the exixtence of God.
Yes, Dewitz. Well spoken. Believe in god or I’ll kick your ass. Or else I’ll get my two friends Hezbollah and Taliban to do it for me. Either way, I think we’ll all convert by morning. Who wouldn’t?
You all have to realize that God does not work with sciences. He works with miracles. In the time of Noah, there was a covering over the earth that protected humans from the sun’s powerful UV rays. This made it possible for people to grow up to ages like 900 or so. It says in the Bible, “6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. 7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood.” – Genesis 7:6-7. Noah spent almost 500 years of his life building the Ark which God had commanded him to build because the earth had become filled with evil and Noah and his family were the only “righteous: men and women left. In that 500 years he spent building, you’d think he would gather enough food for the animals. As for the bathroom situation, the floor was the bathroom. And it most likely stunk. Horribly. God created peace between the animals during this time so that they wouldn’t eat each other. Also, no where in the Bible does it say that disease didn’t spread during this time. It very likely could have. But God protected them from death. Because He has the power to do that, He’s not just some alien creature from deep space, He is the God of Heaven above, and Earth below, He is the controller of All things, great and minuscule. If he can create and the Sun in one day, I’m pretty sure that he could keep some animals from eating each other for 40 days. Now this is what reality is…God’s mercy from wiping out us pathetic humans. It’s jaw dropping, really.
OK. I’ve sort of held back with my own feelings for awhile, I tend to be nice or at least try to be nice, but I’m done with that.
Many religious people are in the habit of being either rude or self-important. The comments from Justin about faith in monkeys, Dewitz with his threats, and now this one. Anne, I read your comments and I can hear your voice; it’s all breathy-like. Try it. Read this in Marilyn Monroe’s voice: “As for the bathroom situation, the floor was the bathroom. And it most likely stunk. Horribly.” That’s how your condescending voice sounds.
This post is about people trying to prove that Noah’s Ark is on Mt Ararat. Not about Christianity, not about faith. Just people who think the ark is on Mt Ararat. What do you think about
that? What do you think about the ark on Mt Ararat? That’s the topic. That’s the topic.
OK Rick, to your point. Genesis says the ark rested in the mountains of Ararat. That leaves a wide area to look. It could still be there somewhere. If I remember correctly, Josephus the 1st century historian said the ark was in Armenia and the locals made money selling pieces to visitors.
As far as evidence of a world wide flood, we would have to find millions of animals & plants buried under layers of rock all over the world… wait…
Thanks, otherguy. If the account in Genesis is historic, and not a parable, then it’s going to take a lot of luck to find wood that old. As you know it tends to rot. There are certainly plenty of people out there looking for it. Thanks for the comments.
why this story is so like the last tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh?
while these tablets are written hundred years before the old testament
its bullshit
just an epic like all other epics
Why is the last tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh so like the story of Noah? Genesis is not written as an “Epic”, it is written as straight forward history, although with supernatural events. Did Moses just write down the oral history that already existed or did he make something up based on others myths. You’d think he would have borrowed from the Egyptians rather than the Sumerians, but the Genesis account stands on its own.
Check out this guy’s theory on the origins of the Genesis accounts. http://www.trueorigin.org/tablet.asp
Its just a theory, but interesting.
we’re not talking about religion here, were talking about the truth,it was written in the bible ” But for God NOTHING SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE” to those who just can’t believe the reality of God’s wonders then be in your side, believe what you strongly believe, but as for me and to those who believe the truth of Gods word, we have this faith that innocence and ignorance cannot really, really understand.God’s word isn’t just a fairytale it is the truth hidden behind human knowledge. what it takes to uncover it? Know Jesus………………………………………………..
about the mystery of our existence, most people were used to be coined as “to-see-is-to-believe” mind you friends, we came into this earth planned and we were NOT just AN ACCIDENT as why we were here.
For me, there’s nothing impossible with GOD!!!
That’s it!!
Only bullshits are those who didn’t believe in all creations of GOD!!!
Sorry for the word but it is true!!
OK, Marvin Monarba and Jayson. People have called b.s. on the Book of Genesis. I personally think they are out of line, and I think you have a point. The Epic of Gilgamesh is considered authentic, but the account in Genesis is considered inauthentic? Why? They tell different versions of the same story.
Why is one considered cool and one considered uncool? I think it’s because the second one is connected to a current religion.
this is not a lie there was no disease spread to animals because simply if just think about it even if there is god will cure them he created the humans and animals and you wonder no disease , the ark is real but i don’t know if this is the real thing or no the scientist will prove that , this is no myth god exists a lot of people don’t believe i guess you should rethink about it before it’s too late before you die and you would say i wish i was dirt before i didn’t believe in god and in Islam
These comments make me wish god had included something about punctuation in those commandments. I’m sure it must be possible to be a fundamentalist Christian and have a good command of written English.
God is all powerful . . . except He needs some old man and his sons to build an ark to save all the earth’s animals. Hey, if God can create all those animals in one day, He can save the animals too, and wouldn’t need the help of some old man. So all the anomalies of predators living peacefully with prey, squeezing two of every known species into an ark of limited size, feeding them all for a month, spreading them out across the globe (and across vast oceans to isolated continents). . . if you’re going to use “God’s will” as an excuse for stuff you can’t explain scientifically, then you’ve already lost the argument.
Premise: God is all powerful. Conclusion: God can do it anyway He wants.
Tim think about this. You are doubting the Genesis account of Noah and the Flood, because that’s not how you would do it if you were all powerful. That’s like me deciding I would never have elected Martin Van Buren as President, so the history books must be wrong. Instead I have to evaluate my source of information. Wikipedia? maybe not. A copy of the Congressional Record from the Library of Congress? More likely. Is Genesis a reliable history book? I believe so, but not just on faith. It stands up to study and analysis. Its called Biblical Apologetics. Lot’s of good material out there. Read Josh McDowell, Lee Strobel, Ken Hamm.
Remain skeptical!
Hey otherguy, welcome back. Your comments forced me to look into this further.
I checked out your link at trueorigin.org, and it was interesting, as you say. The Tablet Theory doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Curt Sewell writes,
“There is no real technical basis for not believing the Bible as it was written. Nowhere does the Biblical text mention anything that implies evolution, nor is there any Biblical incident that’s been proven definitely wrong. The only reason to doubt the clear text of the Bible is an attempt to compromise with secularism, and its rejection of God.” Elsewhere he says, “Why did so many theologians become critical of Biblical truth? Do they have any scientific basis for their doubts? Not really.”
At this point I know I’m not reading a scholarly essay. You will admit this isn’t scientific criticism. “Not really.” That’s an argument? Also, there is a technical basis to doubt the account in Genesis. In fact, several. Here’s one: there’s not enough water on the planet to cover the earth, even if you use the words “cover” and “all the high hills under heaven” metaphorically. Here’s another: creation in 6 days or 13 billion years? Give me just a small break if you insist on 6 days.
“…Nor is there any Biblical incident that’s been proven definitely wrong.” Is that so?
His theory is that the Book of Genesis was written on clay tablets by none other than God, Adam, Noah, Japheth Shem & Ham, etc., etc.
Curt Sewell is writing from pure conjecture. Who needs sources when you have imagination?
Secondly, you say you think Genesis is a reliable history book. Perhaps so. Most theologians start dating events with relative accuracy around the time of Abram, circa 2000 B.C. Everything prior is considered myth, allegory, etc. As far as I know, there’s no historical reference to anything prior to Abram outside of the Bible, except for documents like the Epic of Gilgamesh. I’m not even sure why I’m arguing this. It’s been firmly established and widely accepted already.
Well Rick, that’s a lot to think about. I will concede to “widely accepted”, but only for past few decades. But “firmly established”, I don’t think so. Like you said, no accurate dating prior to Abraham except the Bible. So how does lack of hard facts “firmly establish” anything? I am a skeptic.
So is Genesis real history or allegory and myth? Where did Genesis come from? The Bible as whole contains many literary forms. There is history, poetry, parables, statistics, prophecy, teachings and laws. I think it is pretty obvious from the straightforward reading which is what. There is lots of poetry with allegory in the Psalms and history from Genesis to Nehemiah., where did Moses get his info? Did he make it up from the general myths of the time (Gilgamesh)? Did the Hebrews already have these tablets that their ancestors had scribed over the centuries, starting with the first one given by God? (Idle speculation, unless we find one) Did he compile the oral traditions of the Hebrews? According to the genealogy records Shem the son of Noah was still alive during the life of Abraham and his son Isaac. So the “widely accepted” historical date for Abraham overlaps with at least one Flood eyewitness.
I just don’t think we can assign what is clearly written as history to allegory just because it doesn’t fit with what we understand about the world. It is putting human wisdom above God’s. Not a good thing. In the past, skeptics’ challenges that made sense at the time proved to be false. Only the Bible had record of the Hittite people or the city of Nineveh (where Jonah preached after being spewed out by the fish). Archeology has since proven the skeptics wrong. Or in 2 Peter the destruction of elements is prophesied and the skeptics of the 19th century pointed out that “elements” cannot be destroyed. However, with nuclear physics of the 20th century that argument has fallen out of use.
Our human wisdom decides there is not enough water to cover the mountains, but that is making assumptions. Were the mountains of Noah’s day as high as today? Were the ocean trenches as deep? After all, geologists tell us the continental plates are moving and pushing the mountains up and widening the ocean floor. Just because we can measure the rate of movement today does not directly imply the speed of the past. The Bible says the world was destroyed. The ripping apart of the continents, flooded with miles of sediment and then the catastrophic uplifting of the mountains and pushing out of the ocean floor would certainly drain the land and leave many of the geological features we find. No eyewitness except what was written in Genesis.
6 days of creation. Why not? Our wisdom again? Like I started out my previous post: “Premise: God is all powerful. Conclusion: God can do it anyway He wants.” A few years ago I was at our State Fair and found myself sharing a table with some Wiccans. (you meet the most interesting people at the Fair). They were talking all metaphysical so I challenged them with this. “If God is all powerful, he could have just 2 seconds ago created me, you, all the people, the world, the universe, including all our memories of the past and we wouldn’t know any different. Unless, He told us different.” That is what I believe the Bible is. God Word to us. Explains where we came from, the problems of Sin, and the ultimate Solution. Faith yes, blind faith? No. The evidence is here. It doesn’t take sides. We just need to see it in light of what God has told us. Keep being skeptical.
First of all. Noah’s Ark was three stories high, with rooms inside of the Ark, as the Bible says. There were plenty of rooms to separate each kind of animal. Secondly, there was food for the animals as well as for the humans. If an animal is full it will not kill another animal. Thirdly, God locked the door. God made the animals. Why could he NOT communicate with them?
Otherguy- we CAN assign what is clearly written as history to allegory just because it doesn’t fit with what we understand about the world. Also, it is firmly established and widely accepted. It is. Maybe not by you, or anyone else who uses “God is all-powerful” to explain what doesn’t fit. Check out The Bible Unearthed. Please read this link. It supports/explains/confirms the mainstream scholarly view of archeology in ancient Israel/Palestine.
I believe it is not Religion that we must be seeking, or the proof, I think it is we must find ourself to find truth.Of course i believe there is a God. And I recognize him as Jesus Christ. I go to church on sundays and call him father, its not that hard. He is real. I think most chistians are stuck in wanting to see miracles. Like god actually coming down on a chariot. But as i have seen proof that God rather manipulates the earth. Example: the 10 plagues of Egypt. 1 volcanic eruption caused all kinds of disasters targeted at one area, but with Gods element of being Mysterious he took the first born. Look on both sides of the egyptians and christians. The proof is in the science. God bless.
Ok people, think of things in a bible since.there was no south america, north america or canada only the land of africa an such. and there is prof that that whole area was flooded. i think the bible said it best, if you have the faith the size of a mustared seed then you can move mountains. or God’s will be done.
you guys are all fighting about the wrong things, 1 gilgamesh and Noah are the same in one. look up english translations. Just like everyone seems to get this one wrong too. Thou shalt not kill eeerrrr wrong answer, when translated right it states Thou shalt not murder. It is simple human error that some things are done wrong in the bible. Plus it kinda helps when you had the roman translation, which some things were taken out because the ceser did not agree or like them. Then the greek translated it, samething with them. then king James, again same thing. And i belive it was 1348 when the meeting of niceacea happend and books of the bible were taken out not to be taught. Because the Catholic Church did not agree with some of the text. I am a unitarion because of this, but there is a god he had a son Named Jesus not Christ he was called the christ. He died for our sins. But belive what you want, you will see. You are stupidly Questioning God.
Hey Rick. I checked out the link. Of course I didn’t think much of it. The entry says the “Main Stream” scholars started their work with the assumption the Bible is “ not the unquestioned narrative framework into which every archaeological find must be fit.”, but it seems to me they went to the extreme the other way. The assumption is that all of the Bible was made up in the 7th century BC, with out any reason other than the Bible can’t be true. Of course this is just the Wikipedia summary not the whole book, but the arguments presented, seem weak to me. For example, the claim that the account of Joseph being sold to traders on camels is made up because the authors contend that camel caravans would have rare at the traditional time of Joseph. Weak. The book is 8-9 years old. More archeological finds may cause revisions. They contend that Jerusalem was just a small village at the time of David, therefore the whole story of David & Solomon are myth. However, there has been several archeological finds pointing to David’s palace in Jerusalem. And just last week there was reported they have found massive stone works in Jerusalem that date back to the time of Abraham. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8235041.stm Archeological time lines are tricky. Check out this link about the problems with the Egyptian timeline vs Assyrian vs the Bible. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/utp/how-do-we-know-what-happened
But, back to Noah’s Ark. I found this link that has a summary of many eyewitness accounts of the 19th & 20th centuries. http://www.parentcompany.com/search_for_noahs_ark/sfna2.htm No references, but I’ve heard of some of these before, so it would be a good source to do further research. Here’s another link that’s pretty persuasive. Its always puzzled me that the various eyewitness accounts keep finding the Ark at different spots on Mt. Ararat. They propose that the Ark has broken into 3 pieces. And they have pictures! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8235041.stm Somebody needs to get on the Mountain!
Keep being skeptical.
What about this guy that built the ark according to the dimensions in the Bible?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269090,00.html
And I love the comment from 10 year old gabby99 “um, God is real.He isn’t an alien and I am not a product of a test tube. I am only 10 and I understand the Word of God. If He can create the Heavens and stars, then He can surely keep a boat full of animals fed, safe, and afloat. I will pray for you to learn and accept the truth”
I have to thank some of these commentators!!! You really made me laugh. I was looking for material to use for my teen Bible Study class this week, something to entertain them, and the alien story did just the trick. Thank you. I KNOW the people’s laughter who were left outside the Ark as God closed it, trailed off to chuckles, smirks, then silence before screams and banging on the door were the only thing heard before the Thunder drowned them out.( No play on words) As far as miracles like that happening….well I think it was easier for God to save the entire human and animal race on an Ark than it was for Him to take a life like mine and make me a worshiper which is what I am. So although I could never prove Noahs Ark and a global flood to you, I am a living, breathing testimony that God can perform miracles and you could NEVER refute that….but please try so I can have some material for next weeks lesson.
Also just too add, the TRUTH is that if God is God, and He spun the worlds into existence, He could have saved Noah, his family, and those animals in the back of a flat-bed truck reminiscent of Chitty Chitty Bang- Bang. But the Ark was a picture of Christ and how God did the impossible to save the world…left His throne in the sky to come down and save an undeserving people….His creation…those whom He loved. Let’s not forget, it did not please our God to destroy His creation:Genesis 6:6 said God was grieved that He had made man on the earth because of their wickedness, and His heart was filled with pain. Thats the God I want to serve. I cannot imagine an alien coming down and giving his life for a traitor nation…or world for that matter. I want to end by some of the most simple but profound words that are in a song by Caedmon’s Call…For You so loved the unlovable, That you gave the ineffable, that who so believes the UNBELIEVABLE will gain the unattainable. I chose to believe the unbelievable to gain that which I could never attain on my own: Eternal Life. ” For without Faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God.”
OK, Bev, settle down. If you want to discuss Noah’s Ark with your teen discussion group, you can go about it in two ways that I think are pretty good. I suggest following otherguy’s links from his comments on Sept. 2nd, and again on Sept. 25th, where you get a good roundup of studies that confirm the Christian perspective. If, on the other hand, you want to look at it from a scientific approach, you should read the synopsis of The Bible Unearthed, which I mentioned in my comments on Sept. 16th. As otherguy says, “Stay skeptical.”
this is God , stop all this foolishness and settle down or i’ll smite thee
Ummm… I saw a bunch of comments here, and a lot of them led to whether there is a God or not. Yesterday, in my Worldview Class, we learned that a lot of Secular Humanists like to say that we Christians are all religious and stuff, and we just try to make ourselves feel good. I came up with the point that if they say there is no God, they just want to make themselves feel good. They think it is a burden to have a being superior than them. But we Christians know and believe that to be a cHristian is to believe that Jesus came to die for our wrongdoings, and that if we believe in Him, we can have an eternal relationship with Him. Now, if we sin, we can ask Him forgiveness, and we will be saved from death. But that doesn’t mean we go killing, lying, cheating and stuff. We believe it is a blessing to be free from the guilt of sin. But a lot of people think that after they become a Christian, life will be easy. False. Life Will bring trials, but there will be someone (Jesus) Who will be with you forever. When you die, your body rots on earth, but your soul will go to Heaven. (Believe me, a lot of people think Heaven is going to be boring… trust me, it’s not.) If some of you are interested and want to learn more, go to needhim.org. Please don’t criticize me of my small age, I’m just an eighth grader… But I know of truth that I know you’re dying to hear.(By the way the website I showed, It’s very useful for those of you who have no clue waht God is, and if you don’t believe in God, and all that stuff that’s been building up in your mind.)
He probably caught the animals, chain them up and store them in a cell. And if the great flood is correct, there should be plenty of “food” floating around. Right? wasn’t the flood a punishment to humans? The bible says “God sends a great flood to destroy the earth because of man’s wickedness and because the earth is corrupt”. I believe in God and I believe that God is not as malignant as that, the bible paints God as a cruel being. The Ark might have been a myth or even a fable written by Noah, and passed onto the bible. The ark case is like Adam and Eve. Being the first ones to be created to later in their life arrive at some populated towns. Noah is told the earth will be flooded, or so he says, because people are sick. I wonder where all the humans they encounter after the disaster came from.
Joey Joey Joey… all u nid is to juz pray and God Hinmself will help u.
There is proof all around us that a world wide flood did happen. If dinosaurs where wiped out by some meteor, there would be more broken bones and less fully intact skeletons. we see that if tons of pressure (say, for a major water surge) on living organisms form oil and water would erode rock preserving such oils. bones are bones and cannot be broken down anymore than that. Water would only preserve the bones and make them rock like after a long period of time, or much pressure added to it. The Bible says that the water rose ‘20 feet higher than the tallest mountain of that day. that is more pressure than anything should be allowed to handle. The Bible says that Noah lived to be six hundred before God called him to build the ark. Many of you have claimed that there is no way man can live that long. the following site has scientific evidence (still theory, but supports the Bible) that Man from back in the beginning of civilization could beat now day man.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=166683
I believe that what we see here is the ark. until someone can prove otherwise by actually going there and taking samples to show that it is not (both illegal by Turkish government.) This is the only thing different on the whole mount Ararat.
God gave Noah very specific directions on how the ark was to be bulit. It was to be bulit of cypress wood and covered in pitch in side and out. The dimensions for the ark 450′ long 75′ wide and 45′ high. It was to have an opening at the top of about 18 inches for light. The ark also had three different decks on it. Noah was 600 years old when the flood waters came. After the ark was bulit God had two of every KIND of animal not two of every species of animal. The book of Genesis says that because of mans wickedness God judged the world with a worldwide flood. If this is true you would think we would find dead things buried in rock layers, laid down by water over most of the earth. and that is exactly what we find. That goes along with what we read in the book of Gensis cahpter seven Verse 17-24
Excellent synopsis, Earl.
one thing you fail to factor earl. it was two of every kind of animal, but one thing that you missed is that there was also supposed to be seven of every kind of CLEAN animal. that is the only problem with your synopsis.
I have just read the comments on this blog. Interesting conglomeration.
Is Noah’s Ark on Mt. Aarat? Maybe, maybe not.
1. We do not know exactly where to look. Genesis 8:4 says “the Ark rested upon the mountains of Aarat”. That’s a big mountain range that is believed to cover an area occupying parts of present-day Turkey, Iraq, Armenia, and Iran. Why do some researchers focus on the 17,000′ mountain in Turkey that is called “Mt. Aarat” today (even though it did not used to be called that). A very good reason is that it is the highest peak in the area, which is pretty important, because Genesis 8 explains that the Ark was on this resting spot for about 2 1/2 months before the water level receded enough to see the tops of other peaks (based on current heights of other peaks in the range). This mountain is also studied because of numerous historical claims of a wooden object glimpsed there. But Genesis does not give a GPS location. If you read the actual accounts or watch them on DVD or have actual experience climbing a volcanic mountain like Mt. Aarat, you will know that a successful search is extremely difficult, if not impossible. There are many, many obstacles. Search for the nearly fatal stories of Moon-walking Astronaut Jim Irwin and of geologist John D. Morris, Ph.D.
2. Genesis and the rest of the Bible do not say anything about the preservation of Noah’s Ark for the next 4500 years. We have no idea if the Creator intended for it to remain intact (or in pieces) for curiosity seekers (skeptical or otherwise) in the 21st Century.
3. “We” do not know exactly what we are looking for. What if all or part of Noah’s Ark is on the mountain that people are searching? What if satelite information was released? Would that mean that “we” would find the Ark? Photos and stories and memories and word-of-mouth actually point out more than one possible location. What does this mean? Are there geologic formations that resemble a large Ark when they are covered by a glacier or by volcanic debris? Yes. If the Ark was broken up (by earthquakes, volcanic action, avalanches, glacier movement)and parts moved down the hill to different levels, how would we even detect a part in the satelite photos? If we were looking for the whole thing, when it was not whole, we could miss it. If we found a part, such as some wooden planks, how can we be sure about it? And whose story will we accept? What laboratory findings will we accept? Who can afford to pay a laboratory? It costs big bucks. What laboratory will even agree to test it? Is there a laboratory qualified to test something so specific as the 4500-year old structure recorded in Genesis? Or, should we consider it to be Gilgamesh’s story or some otherlegend (Cultures all over the globe have an ancient Flood story), which would make it a different date and a different material and a different location?
4. How would you recognize “it” if it was found? What would convince you of what exactly you had found? Would it have to have Noah’s name on it? Or Gilgamesh? or?… What if it had electic lights and fans on it? What if it had an marvelous plumbing system? What if it had no plumbing system, and it really stank badly of stale fecal material? What are you prepared to accept? Have you really thought this through?
The story is found in Genesis, chapters 6 through 9 discuss the details of the Flood and of Noah and the Ark. Chapters 10 and 11 follow up with where Noah’s descendents spread out across the globe and what they did in the next few hundred years. This is cool, I think, since I and all of us are descended from Noah and his three sons.
More later.
any 1 ever hear the story o the goat farmer and his son around 200 yr ago that went up the Mt its been snow and ice since the time of noah and the hall is crushed and broken over a cliff i know the true story its in hebrew wrighting. thay know ware it is
The Lord was,is, and here to come. In Him anything is possible.
Several explanations…If you examine Gen. 1:29-30 and Gen 9:1-3, you will find that before the flood, all living beings were vegetarians and after the flood some creatures, including man became meat-eaters. Some obviously like man have continued to eat both meat and plants. As for the animals on the ark…we always assume that these were grown animals. They could have easily been very young, small animals and could also have been put (by God or by instinct) into a state of hibernation. This would have greatly decreased the amount of space and food needed. While I believe that with God all things are possible, most of the improbables become very probable when examined thoroughly.
Good job, Bruce. Yes, the whole purpose of taking pairs of animals on board was to repopulate the earth afterwards, rather than creating all new creatures. So, the animals on board would have benn young, as in approximately reprouctive age. They would not have attained their full size in all cases. (The Ark was big enough, even if they had.) The average size of all the KINDS of animals that would have had to be on board was about that of a sheep. A lot of sheep can fit in a standard box car on a train. The Ark was the size of about 522 box cars. Of course, the Ark provided way more than enough room–animals were NOT packed in like they are on a box car. After all, God cares about animals and tells us to care for them, so they were very well cared for.
As to dinosaurs, some of the biggest animals, here are some comments. If some of them were reptilian, then that could explain their large size prior to the Flood, since some reptiles continue growing throughout their lives. In the better environment prior to the Flood, they could have lived longer and grown bigger. Even today poorer environment, we sometimes hear of a few reptiles living past 100 years or more. It is well-known that the larger alligators are the older ones. Dinosaurs on the Ark would have been young adults ready to reproduce and, therefore, NOT super large. Some dinosaurs may have been mammalian like the mother sauropod or longneck shown nursing two babies on an ICA grave stone from ancient Peru. When mammals are ready to reproduce for the first or second time, they are often not as large as they will ultimately become.
If all or part of Noah’s Ark is ever found in such a way that the public can see or learn about it, God’s awesome plan for the animals He created will be revealed. Of course, He cared even more for people and made the Ark large enough for all the humans who could have chosen to come aboard (but sadly, they chose not to–but that is a whole other story).
To those saying this does NOT look like a boat are thinking too narrowly. Think Ancient boats and Fill it up with thousands of years of debris including petrified laminated wood. Glue and panels also petrified and you have enough weight to push out the sides(splaying) which is what we see today. The kicker is the fact that an earthquake revealed the ancient craft, then scientists have been all over it and have all said it’s a boat with measurements close to that of Noah’s Ark.
To those saying this does NOT look like a boat are thinking too narrowly. Think Ancient boats and Fill it up with thousands of years of debris including petrified laminated wood. Glue and panels also petrified and you have enough weight to push out the sides(splaying) which is what we see today. The kicker is the fact that an earthquake revealed the ancient craft, then scientists have been all over it and have all said it’s a boat with measurements close to that of Noah’s Ark.
http://www.icr.org/article/search-for-noahs-ark-status-1992/ Try this for the status of Noah’s Ark studies and particularly research about the photos above or similar ones.
noha’s ark rested on moutain Judy and not Arrarat.. and for all those who don’t believe the story is because the bible confuses you,, the whole world did have the flood, it was just noha’s people and that means noha’s area.. and it did not rain for forty days,,, no one knows for sure but it must have been just a week at most…come back to the real relgion,,ISLAM AND ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED..THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ORIGINAL ONE…PEACE
HEY MARVIN MONARBA, LETS SEE YOU SHAPESHIFT INTO AN ELEPHANT! NOTHINGS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD, REMEMBER???
you people are all crackheads. That one idiot with the theory the god is an alien, get a life. How old are you, 2? Noah’s ark is something that can neither be proved or denied. There are things that will be left secret, and things that are better left secret.
i believe in noah’s ark i have faith that God has a specific plan for everything. I am a former Atheist and i had the same thoughts you people do. God is real and exist! did naoh’s ark really happened, i believe it did. If you really think about it you guys had to have some belief in Noah’s ark because if you didn’t you would not have searched for it. I love God and i will never believe he is not there ever again. WAKE UP!! and take time to give him a chance he is trying to get through to you. Give God a chance no matter what your sucumstances are. Thank you. love you guys ^^
If, not of this planet, alien is, then God, not of this planet, alien is. Although, more likely, we to God, alien are.
Too bad Ron Wyatt passed. He did see some amazing artifacts, including the Ark. Oh well, those are of the past and we be of the present. Thinking outside of the here and present does allow one to see what was, might have been, could be. One way, or another we shall all arrive at what will be, dead, or alive. Allow enough space in your noggin to admit “possibilities.”
inrich you life with history befor you care what any 1 says thay found
So many questions and maybe there will be more- which simply spells the limited capacity of man to understand God. That I think is the reality of how incomprehensible God is- the human mind can not contain Him—that is why He is God.The question therefore is not having to see proofs to prove that there is God but to realize that He is existing and obviously we can not fathom Him. With that I say, only FAITH will make you understand HIM!
ITS TIME THAT HUMANITY GROWS UP…ENOUGH OF STUPID ORGANISED RELIGION BULLSHIT…ENOUGH OF “RELIGIOUS WARS!!!”OVER WHO’S GOD IS TRUE….ENOUGH OF BELIEVING IN GOD AS SOME ENTITY….THERE IS NO GENDER OF GOD…THE EXISTENCE IS GROWING AND UNFOLDING ITSELF…THERE WERE MESSIAHS AND THERE WILL BE ….THEY WILL BE AMONG US IN EVERY CENTURY…
ITS TIME THAT WE ALL COLLECTIVELY EMBRACE MINIMIZED ENTROPY VIEW OF THE WORLD…
YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN WATER TO QUENCH YOUR THIRST…WHEN YOU DRINK IT…THE TASK IS DONE BY ITSELF
THERE IS NO POINT IN SAYING I BELIEVE IN GOD….ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION- DO I REALLY KNOW GOD OR I HAVE BEEN TOLD BECAUSE I WAS BORN INTO A PARTICULAR RELIGION WITH CERTAIN SET OF BELIEFS AND DOGMAS..HOW ABOUT YOUR PARENTS DO THEY REALLY KNOW ABOUT GOD?
JUST A CLAIM THAT QURAN OR BIBLE IS THE BOOK OK KNOWLEDGE IS STUPID.
IF EVERYTHING IS IN QURAN THEN WHY DO NEED SCIENCE WHEN YOU FALL SICK…JUST PRAY.
WHY USA THE BIGGEST CATHOLIC COUNTRY HAS SO MUCH WEAPONS…JUST BELIEVE IN GOD AND FALL ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY…
THINK OVER THIS
Think over this “bullship and gender?” That doesn’t leave room for much else in my brain.
I got a head-ache. Must be that piece of brain I got stuck in my head.
Here’s a simple one… “prove” the Hebrew chronology of the O.T. wrong. That’s possible, one way or another.
Just for fun.
I know, I know “what else do you do for fun?” lol
Hey, what about believing in yourself, and the car you drive. That should get you a long ways, until you hit a tree.
This can’t be proved dogmatically, but it may be an answer to the “unanswered” questions:
1)The earth was completely different before the flood – the atmosphere was more oxygen rich and more pressure (search air bubbles in tree sap). This would enable humans to live A LOT longer, and healthier.
2)Animals, as well as humans, were vegetarians and would not eat each other before the flood. Before the flood, Genesis 1:29 says God gave us “every herb bearing seed…..” for food. After the flood, Genesis 9 says “the fear and dread of man will fall upon all the beasts of the earth…” and “everything that lives and moves will be food for you…” I assume our appetites changed when the flood destroyed most of the vegetation. We would HAVE TO eat animals to survive.
3)Plan ahead and bring plenty of food
4)Bring babies, NOT adults. They eat less and take up less space, and the “predatory animals eating the smaller animals” wouldn’t be an issue.
5)Noah’s job was to keep the ark clean – good sanitation and free from disease. I’m sure he was smart enough to handle this, considering he was 600 years old
Why do people doubt that all these things are possible is he not our true god, what can be to much for him if he was able to create all and take all away. I believe in god for a few reasons.
1.I have had contact with him in more than one occasion.
2.Why not believe in the end you are going to die full stop,i will rather believe and go to heaven than not believe and say at judgement day well i didnt know what do we have to lose, you people that dont believe have issues you find it easy to believe in ghosts but you cant believe in god what is you problem, you need to think this out and get your priorities right.
You say the Bible is confusing. I am not sure how much more clearly it can be on the account of Noah’s ark and the account of Noah and his family. You also say that it could not have rained for more than a week and that no one really knows how long it rained. In a way you a correct, because none of us were there on the day the rain started or on the day it stopped, but what we do have is the word of God and because God is the Creator of heaven and earth he can make it rain for forty days and forty nights. He was there, He made it happen, and He told us about it. The Bible says in GENESIS 6:17-18, “I (God) am going to bring Floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish.” (NIV) And it goes on to talk about the covenant God made with Noah and with ALL people, including you and me. As to Mt. Judi, it is one of the “mountains of Aararat”.
The Koran and scholars of Islam say the following things about the Flood:
“So We inspired him (with this message): `Construct the Ark within Our sight and under Our guidance: then when comes Our command, and the oven gushes forth, take thou on board pairs of every species, male and female, and thy family- except those of whom the Word has already gone forth: and address Me not in favour of the wrong-doers: for they shall be drowned (in the Flood).” S. 23:27 At length, behold! There came Our Command, and the fountains of the earth gushed forth! We said: `Embark therein, of each two, male and female, and your family- except those against whom the Word has already gone forth,- and the believers.’ But only a few believed with him.” S. 11:40
“So We opened the gates of heaven, with water pouring forth. And we caused the earth to gush forth with springs. So the waters met (and rose) to the extent decreed. But We bore him on an (Ark) made of broad planks and caulked with palm-fibre: She floats under Our eyes (and care): a recompense to one who had been rejected (with scorn)!” S. 54:11-14
“And Noah said: `O my Lord! Leave not of the Unbelievers, a single one on earth! For if Thou dost leave (any of them), they will but mislead Thy devotees, and they will breed none but wicked ungrateful ones.’” S. 71:26-27
“Then the word went forth: `O earth! Swallow up thy water, and O sky! withhold (thy rain)! And the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: `Away with those who do wrong!’” S. 11:44
Ibn Kathir writes:
‘Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn ‘Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, “There was no one left apart from the offspring of Nuh, peace be upon him.” Sa’id bin Abi ‘Arubah said, narrating from Qatadah …
“All people descended from the offspring of Nuh, peace be upon him.” At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Jarir and Ibn Abi Hatim narrated from Samurah, may Allah be pleased with him, that the Prophet … said concerning the Ayah …
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((Sam, Ham and Yafith.))
Imam Ahmad recorded from Samurah, may Allah be pleased with him, that the Messenger of Allah … said …
((Sam was the father of the Arabs, Ham was the father of the Ethiopians and Yafith was the father of the Romans.)) (Tafsir Ibn Kathir Abridged, Volume 8, Surat Al-Ahzab, Verse 51 to the end of Surat Ad-Dukhan, First edition: September 2000, pp. 262-263; bold emphasis ours)
All these traditions taken from men such as Ibn Kathir, Ibn Abbas, and even Muhammad himself, clearly refute the modern …idea of a local flood.
As to the Bible not being the original written book, nothing on this Earth was written prior to the Bible. The first chapter of the Bible was written and signed by the Creator Himself and given to Adam, who in turn wrote of his family history, and so on for a total of 11 “this is the history of”’s in the first book, Genesis, which, of course, Moses later compiled and edited and included in the Torah. Of course, ALL the Bible is from God, our Creator and Savior. My family will praying for you and yours.
Brothers and Sisters, God IS REAL and I know it. So, I have no doubt Noah’s ark is as real as you and me.
Just remember, God works in mysterious ways that our human brain cannot comprehend. GBU
rejecting the validity of the Bible in our current times is equivalent to a society 2000 years from now rejecting historical records that are currently being composed… the Bible was accepted by our country’s early leaders as pure, factual history… it is now very unpopular to believe the bible. I attribute this to the rapid growth of tolerism, evolutionary teachings, and the failure of the modern church, among other things. Overall, it is man’s reluctance to answer to a God or moral standard for his own actions that drives him to reject the Bible. With evolution and a completely tolerant attitude, there is no accountability. I am blessed to be a “right-wing conservative lunatic.” I am blessed to be detached from moral relativity, and I am blessed to have a little faith. My faith plays a small role in my acceptance of the flood account, however, because it is through reason and logic that the validity of Noah’s Ark is confirmed. thank you to those who explained most of it so I don’t have to
Psalms 83:17
Make them failures in everything they do; let them be ashamed and terrified until they learn that you alone, Jehovah, are God above all gods in supreme charge of all the earth.
Simple answer… According to the instructions given to Noah, there were provisions for food for the animals. Also, the Bible states that Noah was in the ark for about one year. Not every animal arround today was around when Noah built the arc. He did not have to round up every type of dog, he just needed to take the grey wolf. The grey wolf has all of the genetic code contained in every species of dog. The dogs that left the ark multiplied into every species we have today. It is the process of natural selection. It was the same for all the animals. There are fossils of giraffes with short necks. Also, not all animals would have to be full grown mature adults. Juvinile animals do not take up as much room. After all of the gussing and speculation is done, nobody is still alive to give us a first hand account. All we are able to do is guess at the details. So, all we can do to guess at the details that is not written in the Bible. Religon aside, the Bible has a proven track record for historical acuracy.
Noah’s Ark is real; everything is possible in Gods eye. God can do anything for real, He is the God that we will Bow our heads down, Nonbelievers always go against God, but let me tell you mate, if only God don’t LOVE you, you could have been gone by now. He has lots of promises in Life, just that we don’t believe or we don’t find a way to find these things. If know the purpose of God for you, you are lucky, but if you don’t then I think it is time for a change.
Okay, so the Christians have a myth about the Ark, so does alot of other religions. So, fake or not, so many religions can’t be wrong.
We need to stop assuming that the answer to how we ought to live as humans is something that we need to get from God, or Allah, or Buddha, or aliens, or whatever. Salvationist religions first emerged when “civilized” humans began to truly leave behind the things we really knew, the thngs we really needed, as we rolled with the civilization snowball. The ’secret of life’, the answer of ‘how to live’ is not unattainable. It is not something we must search for from the gods or spirits or extraterrestrials. WE posessed, at one time, this information- it was bred into us like eating, breathing, hunting. Any anthropologist will tell you that the human species was living successfully and sustainably (yes, living full and rewarding lives, not merely ’surviving’) for tens of thousands of years before civilization began. And some few can still be found living in this way today. EVERY OTHER SPECIES on the earth WORKS, lives sustainably without fucking it up, so why shouldn’t we? We must not define “humanity” and all it’s fuck-ups as the human species itself. There is nothing wrong with the human species! We know how to live! It is our civilized and ‘modern’ world, East and West, that is fucking it up- our cultures and our people have not evolved in a healthy and sustainable way, and now, as a biological rule, we are beginning to truly see the consequences.
Remember that we are not ‘doomed’ as a species to screw ourselves over. There is still hope; you just have to know where to look for it.
(Read some Daniel Quinn, amoung others..)
I do agree with Sarah! I have been chatting to a Catholic priest a while back, asking all sorts of questions about the Church. It’s been screwing people over since day one. Most of its Holidays and beliefs are from Pagan origin. They have been surpressing the natural way of living for centuries. Killing thousands of innocent people because they knew of nature and its wonders. Executing them as witches. It is our knowledge of the less important that screwed with our minds. Science and its wonders that supercharged disease. It’s our quest to know and evolve as a scientific superpower that will destroy us all…
In Q’ran, they say there are lines written by god to kill infidels…strange !!! if he did not want them why did he bother to create them…is he so impotent that he himself cannot wipe them out and outsourced this “holy” task to Muslims…
well if thats what religion is…then i am better without this sort of sadistic & jealous god.
Way off topic here. I can talk about religion for hours. I love questioning the Catholic faith and all the crap that is written about them, but I do not think that this is the place to get into it. This page is reserved for a discussion about Noah’s Ark.
Here’s an idea for a interresting topic, 9/11… I would love to see what people have to say about that!!!
I’ve been watching people have at it on this post. In my opinion most comments are off-topic, but so what? I’ve learned from this post to let people talk if they want, and the discussion will go wherever it takes us. That said, I want to respond to Sarah on Nov. 20th.
Daniel Quinn is full of shit. It’s easy to say that we should all farm locally, survive locally. We in the Puget Sound should live on what we grow, L.A. should live on what they grow, Cairo should live on what they grow, etc., etc. This will bring us back into balance, and population explosions and world hunger will end when the haves stop supporting the have-nots. Have I got that right?
If I read your comments correctly, you admire a sort of stone-age or iron-age technology. A technology where people support themselves, that’s the main thing. Wherever you live, that’s where you must find your sustenance. Hunt, gather, farm, purchase; all locally. Do I have it right?
That is the argument of the haves. Daniel Quinn discusses Houston Texas as being able to sustain 2 million people. Houston couldn’t sustain shit if it weren’t for the oil it processes. Buy oil, and sell gasoline, that’s what Houston does. Let them slake their thirst on petrol. Daniel Quinn discusses the slow demise of half the earth’s population. He’s cold. He’s got his, and everybody else can go to hell. He ignores empathy, a fine old trait common to homo
sapiens.
Every Think it’s Impossible For Us ( Human ). But For God It’s Possible. How great thou art.
all you guys there listen up .if you want to know the TRUTH then look up in the HOLY QURAN bcoz the QURAN is the WORDS OF ALLAH and it has not been changed from the day ALLAH has created. if you were to look at the bible then you’ll see that it has been changed from its original state so you cant rely on the bible.
all you guys there listen up .if you want to know the TRUTH then look up in the HOLY QURAN bcoz the QURAN is the WORDS OF ALLAH and it has not been changed from the day ALLAH has created it. if you were to look at the bible then you’ll see that it has been changed from its original state so you cant rely on the bible.